Hogarth’s Mom Deserved Better (Iron Giant Movie Review)
Kat and Ryley watch the 1999 animated film Iron Giant! From the creative mind of Brad Bird, this surprisingly deep film has equally surprising one-star reviews.
Review Overview: The reasons behind this story (book and movie) are enough to tell you how much heart was poured into the making. The messages it has are timeless. It's stunning and moving.
Hogarth's mom should have had a more significant role in the story.
Kat: 10/10
Ryley: 10/10
EASY BAKE TAKES 0:12
Hello,
Kat 0:13
and welcome to Easy Bake takes,
Ryley 0:16
the podcast!
Kat 0:17
where we read the one star reviews of your favorite movies and more. My name is Kat.
Ryley 0:21
And I'm Ryley.
Kat 0:22
And this week we picked movies from the year we were born. And since we were both born in the summer, we picked summer movies from the year we were born and I picked the Iron Giant.
Ryley 0:31
I love it. It's my favorite movie. It's one of my favorite movies.
Kat 0:34
Same here. So quick plot breakdown. This movie is set in October of 1957, shortly after Sputnik is launched, and an object crashes off the coast of Maine, where this movie sets place, in Rockwell. And that thing is The Iron Giant. Hogarth Hughes is a nine year old boy who lives with his single mother who works as a waitress and he ends up finding and befriending this alien robot and also befriends of beatnik except beatniks we're not a term yet at this point, but that's what Dean was. A US government agent named Kent Mansley comes to Rockwell because he knows about the Iron Giant being there and tries to- tries to get rid of the Iron Giant and also fuck Hogarth's mom.
Ryley 1:24
Yeah, that too. I thought you had a vendetta at first. I though you were saying like, Oh, yeah, and fuck Hogarth's mom. Like, what did she do?
Kat 1:31
He tried to fuck Hogarth's mom.
Ryley 1:32
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Kat 1:34
Plot twist. She ends up with Dean in the end. Backtrack a little bit, Hogarth gets interrogated by- by Kent Mansley about having seen the giant. Dean hides the giant in his junkyard for him. The Army comes after the giant and Kent Mansley tries to get them to blow up the giant while he's holding Hogarth.
Ryley 1:56
Yeah, oh, this- this guy did not care.
Kat 1:58
No, he's like, unhinged levels of bad. Like, yeah, just kill a kid. I don't care.
Ryley 2:06
Yeah. Also, if you don't know Kent Mansley, the villain of this movie. He is a perfect charicature of Conan O'Brien. So literally-
Kat 2:14
Yeah, he looks like yeah,
Ryley 2:16
Literally looks like Conan O'Brien.
Kat 2:18
The giant ends up sacrificing himself to stop a nuclear missile thing.
Ryley 2:19
Missile.
Kat 2:20
That's a word, nuclear thing. It's coming towards Rockwell. And he says Superman and then he flies himself into it to stop it. He literally says Superman.
Ryley 2:35
He is because that was his hero.
Kat 2:36
He wants to be- that's his idol.
Ryley 2:38
Yeah.
Kat 2:38
And so they make- they have a memorial for the giant. Annie and Dean- (Annie's the mom) Annie and Dean beginning a relationship. Hogarth is given a package from Rogard containing a screw from the giant, which is the only thing that was left of him, the screw starts moving around on its own. They all- all the parts that were left over, come together and form his head in Iceland.
Ryley 3:00
Yeah, cuz that's where his like, body parts blew up, but he's alive. He's not dead. So it gives you a little hope at the end. The ending is sad but there is hope.
Kat 3:07
Yes. Okay, so let's get into some of the background information. And then we'll- we'll talk about it a little more. So this movie was directed by Brad Bird and written by Tim McCanlies and Brad Bird. And it's based on the novel The Iron Man that was written by Ted Hughes. Also, this movie came out August 6 1999, was rated PG and its runtime is an hour and 26 minutes. But Ted Hughes was actually this husband of Sylvia Plath and wrote the novel The Iron Man to comfort his children after their mother's tragic suicide. Hughes did get to read the script that McCanlies and Bird were writing and said that he absolutely loved it. But he did die a year before the film was released. So they dedicated the movie to him, but his daughter, Freida did go see it on His behalf and she absolutely loved it.
Ryley 3:52
Oh good.
Kat 3:53
The movie bears little resemblance to the novel, as the novel has more themes of reassembly after destruction. The film is a little less about that. And more about like there's a gun have a soul what if a gun didn't want to be a gun?
Ryley 4:07
Yeah, yeah, the movie is not based on that. But or like It's like heavy things of that. But he does. There's hints of it. There's hints of it.
Kat 4:15
Yeah.
Ryley 4:15
Especially the ending.
Kat 4:16
It's- it's interesting to- To know such like the the tragic origins of -
Ryley 4:22
Yeah. This movie.
Kat 4:23
-the original story.
Ryley 4:24
Yeah.
Kat 4:25
When I get to the trivia there's a little there's a little more.
Ryley 4:28
Yeah
Kat 4:28
There's a tragic reason for the movie itself being made. But we'll get there in a second. Hogarth is voiced by Eli Marienthal, who is actually the only movie I remember seeing him in other than this was when he was a little older. He was in the movie Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen, which stars Lindsay Lohan.
Ryley 4:45
Yeah.
Kat 4:46
He plays her boyfriend in that movie.
Ryley 4:48
Oh, weird. I didn't know that. How funny.
Kat 4:50
Yeah. Like, when I looked at the IMDB I'm like, wait a fucking minute, I know that guy.
Ryley 4:55
How weird.
Kat 4:57
Does this mean we need to do Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen?
Ryley 5:00
I wouldn't mind I love that movie.
Kat 5:02
Me too. Okay, moving on, though. Harry Connick Jr. voices Dean. Jennifer Aniston voices Annie who is Hogarth's mom. Vin Diesel voices The Iron Giant. And Christopher McDonald voices Kent Mansley. Someone, I don't think I saved this, but there was a letterbox review that basically said this movie was Vin Diesel's audition for Groot.
Ryley 5:23
Honestly, though, because he doesn't say much in this movie besides two or three lines.
Kat 5:30
Actually wait here I have I have a I have a trivia fact about how many words he says actually.
Ryley 5:34
Oh wow, okay. Yeah.
Kat 5:35
Okay, so I'll move on to the trivia Brad Bird actually personally animated the scene where Hogarth is ranting to Dean after he had given him some espresso.
Ryley 5:44
I love that scene.
Kat 5:45
Bird was inspired to make this movie as a memorial to his late sister who actually died at the hands of domestic gun violence by her estranged husband. And his pitch for this movie was what if a gun had a soul and didn't want to be a gun?
Ryley 5:58
I cried when I first read that like that fact to like, it's just really like-
Kat 6:02
It makes this movie mean a lot more.
Ryley 6:04
Yes.
Kat 6:05
Moving on from that, the Iron Giant only says 53 words total. That doesn't include any like grunts or anything.
Ryley 6:12
Yeah.
Kat 6:12
It's just like purely words, 53 of them.
Ryley 6:15
Wow.
Kat 6:16
This was originally intended to be a musical and actually Pete Townsend of the band, The Who, adapted the book as a concept album and released it in 1989 as the Iron Man: A Musical.
Ryley 6:29
I need to see that.
Kat 6:30
I do too. But I'm also glad that this movie wasn't a musical.
Ryley 6:34
Me too.
Kat 6:35
Yeah. As much as I love musicals. So this movie used a mixture of traditional animation and computer generated imagery. Underperformed at the box office only grossing 31.3 million with a production budget of 70 million and on opening night it needed at least 8 million to like make its money back but it only made five. But it also it wasn't promoted properly. And I actually have a review that kind of goes into why they think that this movie didn't do as well at first, but it did critically really well.
Ryley 7:04
Oh, yeah, I can see that and it's like kind of like a cult classic, especially with our generation.
Kat 7:09
They did a lot better with it with marketing it for coming out on DVD and VHS. That's part of why a lot of people in our age group and a little older actually really loved this movie, but it does get compared to ET quite a bit and bird responds to critics comparing the two films by saying, "ET doesn't go kicking ass, he doesn't make the army pay. Certainly you risk having your hip credentials taken away if you evoke anything sad or genuinely heartfelt," but he I mean, that's fair. ET does not kick anybody's ass.
Ryley 7:40
No he does it. He makes kids fly on bikes and that's about it, the Iron Giant-
Kat 7:44
And he runs and screams at a little kid.
Ryley 7:46
He can't even be in the sun, they have to cover him up.
Kat 7:49
Yeah. Yeah
Ryley 7:50
I wouldn't never thought I remember like the- yeah, I can see how they're like technically similar but like, I never put these two movies in my head together.
Kat 7:59
Hogarth is nothing like Elliott from ET.
Ryley 8:02
Yeah.
Kat 8:02
What were your thoughts and opinions on this movie, having watched it?
Ryley 8:05
Nothing that's gonna be read or said about this movie is gonna change my mind. This is a 10 out of 10 film. It's different from a lot of kids movies, because it's adult themes in the way of like, it talks heavily about the Cold War. It talks a lot about like the threat of nuclear bombs. It talks a lot about stuff that other kids movies don't talk about. So it has that seriousness to it. But also this magical kids story with like actual real life stuff in it.
Kat 8:05
It can be applied to real life.
Ryley 8:09
Yeah. Exactly.
Kat 8:09
And it has historically real things that happen. It's kinda like The Hunger Games where it's like, Why do you think our generations like this?
Ryley 8:40
Yeah.
Kat 8:41
Not specifically, what if a gun had a soul-
Ryley 8:43
Yeah.
Kat 8:43
-what would the message be there outside of just that, like, what do you think?
Ryley 8:47
Well, the line specifically in the movie you choose who want to be. That right there. That's the message of the movie. You choose what you want to be. It doesn't matter who you are, where you've been, what's happened. You choose who you want to be?
Kat 8:59
Yeah.
Ryley 8:59
You choose your actions. You choose what you do.
Kat 9:02
What's that Eleanor Roosevelt quote, where it's like, nobody can make a fool out of you without your permission or something like that.
Ryley 9:08
Sounds familiar. I don't know it specifically.
Kat 9:10
People might try to pigeonhole you as something
Ryley 9:13
Yeah.
Kat 9:14
As like what they perceive you to be. But you can always be something other than that.
Ryley 9:18
Yeah, exactly. This movie. I love this movie so much. Just because the messages they have. I love this movie.
Kat 9:24
The snacks and food that Hogarth eats
Ryley 9:28
Yeah.
Kat 9:28
Especially when he's just sitting there at home alone watching the movie.
Ryley 9:31
Yes.
Kat 9:31
That and like the Goofy Movie? All the food?
Ryley 9:34
Oh my god, it's so good.
Kat 9:35
Delicious.
Ryley 9:36
The milkshake he has? Oh my god.
Kat 9:38
Yeah.
Ryley 9:39
Want to eat all of it.
Kat 9:39
Especially Studio Ghibli food.
Ryley 9:41
Oh, yeah.
Kat 9:42
I was worried that it wouldn't hold up. Hadn't watched it in a long time. Like I did I watched it a fuck ton as a kid. It was still amazing. I still loved it. I didn't have any issues with it. Like I agree with what you said. This will always be a 10 out of 10 movie for me and I'll say this now it was incredibly difficult to find a negative review of this movie.
Ryley 10:01
I bet it was because this, this is one of those rare movies where it's weirdly perfect because like I'm sitting here thinking like, what is something I can negatively say- negatively say about this movie?
Kat 10:10
I found some that weren't about this, but most of the negative things were like, this is just cold war fear propaganda.
Ryley 10:18
What do you think the Cold War was? Or not that like it was propaganda? Because there was, you know, issues like, you know, Russia and US did have these.
Kat 10:26
Yeah.
Ryley 10:27
But like, that's how people lit back then. What do you mean, it's propaganda? That's how it was.
Kat 10:32
It's just history.
Ryley 10:34
It's just history. This movie is just history. And it's like, what's the word? Not hysterical? Like they're not funny, but like, they're they're going crazy. They're going crazy over there.
Kat 10:42
They're losing it.
Ryley 10:43
They're losing it.
Kat 10:43
I don't know
Ryley 10:44
They're losing it over there.
Kat 10:46
They're going bananas.
Ryley 10:47
They are.
Kat 10:47
Technical term.
Ryley 10:50
I'm trying to articulate as well as I can, but like, yeah, like, I don't think-
Kat 10:55
It was panic.
Ryley 10:56
Yeah, it was. It was that constant
Kat 10:58
Yeah.
Ryley 10:58
This could happen any second. And it almost did. It almost did, several times actually.
Kat 11:04
It's always something- hysteria,
Ryley 11:06
Hysteria. That's the word I was trying to say. Not hysterical.
Kat 11:09
You literally said that.
Ryley 11:10
Did I?
Kat 11:11
Yes.
Ryley 11:12
Oh my god. I thought I said hysterical. I was like, that's not right.
Kat 11:15
Like mass hysteria.
Ryley 11:16
Mass hysteria.
Kat 11:17
It happens every decade something happens. So it's like, I don't know why it's a big deal that-
Ryley 11:23
It's every few years now.
Kat 11:24
Yeah, literally. Anyway, anything else you'd like to say about the movie? Before we move on?
Ryley 11:30
I love this movie. I'm sure I'll bring up other points that I want to talk about later.
Kat 11:34
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. I don't really have much else to say either. The first critic I have is Kathy Mao. So this was written in February of 2000. On the Fantasy and Science Fiction Magazine website. Kathy starts with quote, "Bird develops the personality of the title 'monster,'" in quotes, "and carefully details both the metal behemoths personal growth..." unquote. Also mentioned was the relationship with Hogarth. They say that the choice to set the film in 1957 Maine gives Hughes timeless fable a social context. And the film is an elaborate homage to old sci fi flicks. And it's a feature cartoon that adults can truly enjoy and it has a moral and social lesson but it never seems preachy because it makes use of adventure, humor and exciting visuals. Also believes that the fault of the movies box office failure is at the hands of Warner Bros, who released the movie way too late into summer, wasted a lot of their marketing budget on other movies like Wild Wild West, which was also a failure.
Ryley 12:34
Yeah.
Kat 12:35
Did no merchandising and little to no promotion and it was also overshadowed by Disney's Tarzan.
Ryley 12:41
Oh dang.
Kat 12:41
Understandable
Ryley 12:42
Understandable. That's a good movie. I love Tarzan.
Kat 12:45
Have you heard the soundtrack?
Ryley 12:46
Have you heard that soundtrack? Just go for the music. Okay, that last part I understand how they had competition.
Kat 12:52
they put a lot of context around why it failed at the box office
Ryley 12:55
It does I see how all- I see how all those are reasons why it didn't- It just didn't make it
Kat 13:00
Yeah.
Ryley 13:00
In the- In the-
Kat 13:01
It came out in August
Ryley 13:02
That's too late in the summer that's not summer blockbuster. That's too late for a summer blockbuster.
Kat 13:06
Kids are already going back to school.
Ryley 13:07
Yeah, they're done.
Kat 13:09
Did do really well with home video sales.
Ryley 13:11
Oh, yeah. I'm sure like we own I owned it on VHS. So like.
Kat 13:16
That's how I saw it.
Ryley 13:16
Yeah.
Kat 13:17
I was an infant when it came out. So I don't think we saw it in theaters.
Ryley 13:20
No, no. But to go back to the point where she says the film was elaborate homage to great old sci fi flick. So in my horror film class, like literally the theme in the 1950s for horror, was fear of communism, fear of nuclear bombings. So like that was a huge theme. Brad Bird literally took that concept. And that was a huge like-
Kat 13:40
Yeah.
Ryley 13:41
Horror component for that time.
Kat 13:43
Like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Ryley 13:44
Yes, yes.
Kat 13:45
Hogarth's basically watching a movie like Invasion of the Body Snatchers, at the beginning like.
Ryley 13:50
it's intelligent. That's what I would call this movie intelligent.
Kat 13:54
Anything else about what Kathy had to say?
Ryley 13:55
No, but I totally like it was very informative. I really liked it.
Kat 13:59
I like I like that she mentioned the part about Warner Brothers failing to promote the movie properly.
Ryley 14:05
Yeah.
Kat 14:05
I bet at this time, a lot of people just assumed it wasn't a very good movie because of the box office failure and whatnot.
Ryley 14:11
No, they just did a bad job.
Kat 14:13
So this next review was written on the Tyee by Dorothy Woodend in September of 2004. Dorothy says that the film is damning as an anti-war film doesn't try to hide its cleverness and quote, "the film made me ball like a newborn calf when I saw it for the first time. Maybe I'm a sap but Vin Diesel will forever hold a warm spot in my heart no matter how many terrible films he makes just for the way he rumbles Superman," end quote.
Ryley 14:41
I love that end quote. That's me. I wrote that. I'm just kidding. I didn't but like that's how I feel I completely-
Kat 14:47
Superman.
Ryley 14:48
I love how they said maybe bought like a newborn calf which I've never heard. That's a new one and I like it. I love this person. I love this, this one that we just read.
Kat 14:58
Thank you, Dorothy.
Ryley 14:59
Thank you, Dorothy for describing this movie really how I like it.
Kat 15:03
So the next review I have is from Dustin's Reviews and was written by Dustin Putman in August of 1999, who gave the movie a two out of four. Says the movie feels overlong and if I remember correctly, I remember them also saying even if the movie is only in like an hour and 20 minutes or something like that.
Ryley 15:20
Moron.
Kat 15:21
Says that it's shameful in extreme similarities with ET. Character of Hogarth's mother was wasted in their opinion. I feel like she could have been used a little more.
Ryley 15:30
Yeah, yeah. Okay, that's a fair-
Kat 15:32
I'll give him that.
Ryley 15:33
That's a fair one.
Kat 15:34
Yeah.
Ryley 15:34
Okay.
Kat 15:34
And said that aside from the robot, the movie was refreshingly realistic. And said that children can relate and adults will appreciate the distinct time period elements. And says, quote, "if the film had gone a little bit further in portraying this particular era, including using perhaps an array of popular 50s tunes to underscore the the goings on, it might have been more enjoyable on this level," end quote.
Ryley 15:56
They didn't have the budget. They didn't have the budget dude.
Kat 16:00
I might also mention that this reviewer wanted them to include the fact that kids had to do they had to do air raid drills.
Ryley 16:06
So he wanted see that.
Kat 16:07
He wanted them to include that. Yeah.
Ryley 16:08
Not just not just the footage, like the actual practice.
Kat 16:12
Yeah, they wanted to-
Ryley 16:13
I don't know, maybe.
Kat 16:13
They wanted to see that happen.
Ryley 16:15
Okay.
Kat 16:16
They wanted the era to be a little more-
Ryley 16:18
Realistic
Kat 16:19
-Flushed out, if they weren't going to go there.
Ryley 16:21
Okay.
Kat 16:21
But says, that the movie was not completely awful, but a still a missed opportunity. I think they mean, in the way that I just mentioned,
Ryley 16:28
Yeah.
Kat 16:28
Like, they wanted them to go further into that like 50s Red Scare Cold War.
Ryley 16:33
Okay. Yeah.
Kat 16:34
And then ends with, quote, "animated feature or not The Iron Giant attempts to stray from the beaten path of Disney, but really, who is Warner Brothers kidding? I'll take Disney superior animated entertainment Tarzan over this any day of the week."
Ryley 16:49
Oh no they brought up Tarzan again.
Kat 16:53
But here's the thing, Tarzan's great but so is the iron giants
Ryley 16:56
Yeah.
Kat 16:56
Stop comparing them.
Ryley 16:57
That's the thing.
Kat 16:58
It's not fair to them.
Ryley 16:59
And I'm sorry those are two wildly different movies. Like don't like they are-
Kat 17:03
They are!
Ryley 17:03
just two not even comparable. They just are two animated movies, two great animated movies that came about the same time. And oh my gosh, that is-
Kat 17:10
Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hold on.
Ryley 17:12
Okay.
Kat 17:13
Are they really that different?
Ryley 17:15
Are they really that different?
Kat 17:16
Think about the main characters. Tarzan and the Iron Giant, are really that different? They're just coming from different perspectives.
Ryley 17:22
Oh, god. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, maybe. Okay. A little bit. Okay. I see it a little bit. Yeah, if it was just
Kat 17:31
one of them's anti war, one of them's anti poaching.
Ryley 17:33
They might be similar, oh my god they actually-
Kat 17:39
But they're both movies about being yourself.
Ryley 17:43
You are who you choose to be? Oh my god. All right. Wow, that's hilarious. I never even thought about it. When you think about it, they're not- It's not-it's not wild to say they're similar. Wow.
Kat 17:59
I just think- I feel like people think, when along the lines of kids movies, they have to like be the exact same setting for them to be comparable. But like theme wise, these movies are pretty similar. But I think you could also argue that a lot of kids movies have a similar message
Ryley 18:16
Be yourself.
Kat 18:18
Yeah. And be nice to other people.
Ryley 18:21
And like, you know, be anti-war.
Kat 18:24
Don't judge others.
Ryley 18:25
And don't poach animals
Kat 18:25
Be anti-war.
Ryley 18:26
Please don't poach animals.
Kat 18:27
No poaching
Ryley 18:27
and please no war. oh Iron Giant literally has a scene where the hunters shoot a deer.
Kat 18:38
And it's a reference to Bambi.
Ryley 18:40
Yes. Oh my god. It's like I mean, I'm not saying it's anti poaching. I mean, I don't know, it can be an anti poaching message. I don't know because he he didn't like he didn't like that the animal was killed. He didn't and you know, whole concept of guns and, and Tarazan-
Kat 18:53
Iron giant's a vegan. He eats metal.
Ryley 18:55
Yeah he is a vegan. Oh my god, that's so funny. Oh my god. All right.
Kat 19:02
Anyway, anyway, we're gonna move on
Ryley 19:04
Yeah.
Kat 19:05
to the last- the last review, I found one from 2020 that was written kind of as a retrospective on the movie from a website called the Giant Freaking Robot,
Ryley 19:14
Alright.
Kat 19:14
And was written by Drew Dietsch. And they start with the fact that the movie has become recognized as an incredible achievement in both narrative and animation. They took the boy and his dog and turned it into a sci fi tale.
Ryley 19:28
Yeah.
Kat 19:28
Says that the movie deals with topics- with deep topics, but they didn't water anything down to the point where kids would feel patronized by it. Even with the heavy themes, it still maintains a fun and heartfelt air to it. They also say that the animation is jaw dropping and ends with quote, "If the Iron Giant had managed to have a conventional marketing campaign, it's likely it would have been a legitimate hit at the box office. Instead, it had to wait until it's time on home video to find an audience and as the years have gone on, more and more of viewers have come to recognize it as a phenomenal film," end quote.
Ryley 20:03
Absolutely, absolutely. And yeah, the animation holds up very, very well. It is like-
Kat 20:08
Beautiful.
Ryley 20:09
Yeah, it's a great-
EASY BAKE TAKES 20:10
It's beautiful.
Kat 20:11
There are some people that ended up going on to Pixar that worked on this movie.
Ryley 20:16
Brad Bird who made Incredibles
Kat 20:19
Yeah, exactly. And they make a lot of references to Iron Giant in Incredibles which I think is interesting, too.
Ryley 20:25
Oh, I'm sure.
Kat 20:26
But yeah in The Incredibles when borrowing a plane Helen's pilot callsign is India golf Niner niner, which translates to IG 99, which is Iron Giant that came out in 1999.
Ryley 20:37
Oh, I love that. That is a very hidden one.
Kat 20:43
Yeah.
Ryley 20:44
You would have to really know.
Kat 20:45
So any, do you have anything else to say about what this person said? I think they really wrapped it up pretty well.
Ryley 20:51
They did. And yeah, yeah, they wrapped it up.
Kat 20:53
Personally, I'm just glad that this movie was able to gain an appreciation.
Ryley 20:58
Yeah, because it is a like they said a phenomenal film. And it's a shame that it didn't get its viewing at the box office like it should have like it would have done well. Had it been marketed appropriately.
Kat 21:13
I'm sure it's made its money back over time, too. If you're ready, we can move on to the audience reviews now. Okay, so we're gonna start with a 10 out of 10. This is from IMDb, and it was written December 1999. And it is titled A masterpiece. Plain and simple. "I'm 25 years old. I have no children. So why am I praising a kids movie, which nobody saw? Because I have never seen a film pack the emotional wallop that The Iron Giant provided. The film's plot is similar to ET, not to knock the Spielberg film, but what makes the Iron Giant the better film is that the young boy is the teacher. It is he who has to teach the giant about the beauty of life. The difference between good and evil and choices we have to make. The Iron Giant, it turns out, is a weapon who has to struggle against his own nature. The film has an obvious (and timely) gun control message, but its real message is about the choice we make when dealing with other people. We can use our powers for good or lash out at everyone around us. I dare not give away the climax. All I will say is that it features a sacrifice absolutely breathtaking and emotionally shattering, (albeit somewhat blunted by the ending) The animation is gorgeous, Michael Kevin's score is perfect and the film beautifully evokes the 1950s. Sadly, poor marketing kept audiences away in droves. All I can say is to heck with the box office gross despite Warner's apparent desire to pretend the film never existed. The word is getting around about what a magical film this is, and I have no doubt it will join It's a Wonderful Life as a film which bombed in theaters but became a classic over the years. See it now. So you can say you discovered it before everyone else did."
Ryley 22:49
That's so nice.
Kat 22:50
Now on to the first negative review we have. This is a two out of 10. It's from IMDb September 22 2003, but it is titled overrated.
Ryley 23:02
What?
Kat 23:04
I see you've read ahead.
Ryley 23:05
Yes.
Kat 23:05
"The Iron Giant is just a naughty little box office type of movie. It may have changed the way people see the animation genre, but it offers only little. The story itself may not have enough imagination to carry on this movie. Dirty, useless, non unique are the words to describe its animation. These are the lows of this film, but there is more. The highs of the Iron Giant comes to its scripting and voice acting but this may also be its weaknesses. It is not too great. It is not too great, it is not too good. But The Iron Giant is a very good sci fi film, it's about a robot helping this boy," Did they watch it? "it is a really good plot. But unfortunately, the film does not depict this kind of genre. It slows to a kitty PG cartoon, that's why I did not like this film. There are better films like Shrek but I advise do not watch this film. I give this film a 2 out of 10."
Ryley 24:11
Peaks comedy. When someone brings in a wildly different movie to compare to whatever movie we're talking about. Peak comedy. Also this-
Kat 24:18
Think about the main character of Shrek.
Ryley 24:18
Oh my God no, I'm not comparing
Kat 24:19
Think about Shrek.
Ryley 24:21
I'm not doing it.
Kat 24:22
Think about Shrek.
Ryley 24:25
No, I'm not doing it. Anyway-
Kat 24:28
Don't judge a book by it's cover.
Ryley 24:30
Don't judge a book by its cover. Be yourself. Oh no, it is it's similar. It's so similar.
Kat 24:36
Like I said every fucking kids movie.
Ryley 24:38
This person did not watch this movie because the ending thing it slows to a kiddie PG cartoon. You didn't watch this movie or at least you didn't finish it. You didn't finish it
Kat 24:46
He literally turns into Godzilla.
Ryley 24:48
He literally turns into Godzilla. There's a fucking nuclear bomb coming to hit the town. He sacrificed himself for the town he dies. what part of that is a kitty cartoon movie to you? What part of that? You didn't finish it we know you didn't. Also I don't like how they use the words naughty and dirty to describe this movie. That is not how you would describe this movie whatsoever.
Kat 25:06
A naughty little box office.
Ryley 25:08
What does that even mean? I love also how you like your- how you were reading this, like the way you were reading this is like the funniest. I don't even know how to describe it, but just how you're reading this review was so funny.
Kat 25:19
I'm an actor. Okay.
Ryley 25:21
Yeah. Oh my god.
Kat 25:23
I just go with the vibes that these reviews give me.
Ryley 25:25
Yeah.
Kat 25:26
This is where I start my voice acting career.
Ryley 25:28
Yeah.
Kat 25:28
Apparently.
Ryley 25:30
Okay.
Kat 25:30
A naughty little box office movie. You know, I imagined saying that line?
Ryley 25:35
Who?
Kat 25:35
The first sentence? Drew Gooden. I imagine Drew Gooden saying, just a naughty little box office type of movie.
Ryley 25:35
Oh my god. This was such a funny review and they were so wrong about a lot of it. I just hate how they used-
Kat 25:44
They were right about Shrek though.
Ryley 25:49
I just hate the I hate that we're- you could learn so in any kid's movie. And it's kind of the same message, just be yourself. You choose who you get to be.
Kat 25:59
Be yourself. Don't assume who people are.
Ryley 26:01
Yeah.
Kat 26:03
Whatever. But we'll move on to the next one.
Ryley 26:05
That is so funny. Oh my god.
Kat 26:07
So the next one is also from IMDB. It's one of the very few one out of 10 reviews that was on there. And it is from August 12 1999. And it is titled I must have seen a different movie. "Both of my kids got bored with this movie. Not to mention that I was disappointed that my kids wanted to leave in the middle of this film because I was hoping to catch a quick nap. Whatever. I'm glad everybody else liked it. We left and got our money back. (My kids also couldn't make it to the end of Star Wars one so they have some amount of taste.)" that he- they're saying the prequel Star Wars like.
Ryley 26:36
Oh. Okay.
Kat 26:36
The prequel ones the bad Hayden Christiansen, like
Ryley 26:39
Yeah, well, I still think your kids don't have taste. No, they don't have taste. Your kids are probably boring.
Kat 26:46
This had to be a dad.
Ryley 26:47
Yeah.
Kat 26:47
Because they were like I was hoping to catch a quick nap in the.
Ryley 26:49
Yeah, that's the whole thing.
Kat 26:52
It's such like a it's such a calm, like one star review. Whatever. I'm glad everyone else liked it.
Ryley 26:58
We got our money back.
Kat 27:00
Such a dad review.
Ryley 27:01
It is.
Kat 27:01
Why write the review to begin with, you know, everybody else liked it.
Ryley 27:04
He's not passionate about any of it. So it's like-
Kat 27:07
No you wanted to take a nap.
Ryley 27:08
He's not also commenting about anything about the movie he's just commenting about his kids can't sit still during a movie. So your kids probably can't go to a movie theater. That's what it sounds like. No, it just sounds like his kids are boring.
Kat 27:19
Yeah.
Ryley 27:19
They can't enjoy a good film.
Kat 27:21
Truth. Yeah. Well, this was in 1999. His kids are probably like a little older than us now.
Ryley 27:27
Oh, yeah. They're-
Kat 27:28
That's like just the most parent review-
Ryley 27:30
It is
Kat 27:30
of a movie. Specifically a dad like. Did your dad fall asleep in every kid's movie he took you to or did he actually watch them?
Ryley 27:37
It depends on what it was. Okay, a lot of the movies he took us to see he was chasing my sister because she she couldn't sit down.
Kat 27:42
She was a runner.
Ryley 27:43
She was a runner.
Kat 27:44
And you were sitting there like-
Ryley 27:46
I was left behind. I thought I thought he left so many times. I thought I was left in the movie theater so many times. But he was just chasing my sister because she would get up and run.
Kat 27:55
My dad would nap in every single one and we'd be like- and he would say the same thing every single time when we asked him what he thought he'd say it was cute.
Ryley 28:04
That was the standard. That was a good- that was a good line.
Kat 28:06
Yeah it was cute. Okay, well moving on into the next review. This is from letterboxed and it is from November of 2020. And it's three and a half stars. "From a purely direct directorial standpoint this has all the hallmarks of Brad Bird signature genius. It's also pretty solid emotionally with some excellent animation to boot. I really wish I could join the rest of y'all in saying it's a 10 out of 10 masterpiece, but much like," what is that?
Ryley 28:33
How-
Kat 28:34
h t t o- Oh! How to Train Your Dragon 2
Ryley 28:37
oh.
Kat 28:37
how the fuck did I know that?
Ryley 28:44
Yeah. oh shit. How did you transcribe that?
Kat 28:46
You said you went you said how and I was like How to Train Your Dragon.
Ryley 28:50
Okay, that's Wow, okay.
Kat 28:54
Anyway, I'm gonna go back. "but much like How to Train Your Dragon two, I just have a ton of story and character problems that piled up over time. The villain is horrendously embarrassing and annoying dipshit, the mother is sidelined incredibly hard, the beatnik guys incredibly hard to pin down a motivation for, the fact that Hogarth starts playing with the robot immediately before the army has even left the town just reeks of contrived conflict and idiocy, I could go on. But it's still a good movie and I still like it for all the same reasons everyone else likes it despite my problems with it. K thanks bye."
Ryley 29:27
I love that outro. Okay, thanks bye.
Kat 29:30
Nobody talks to me I'm leaving
Ryley 29:32
Don't follow me
Kat 29:34
Turn around, turn around.
Ryley 29:35
Okay, love the ending.
Kat 29:38
K thanks bye. It sounds like they sprinted off. they sprinted in and they sprinted away.
Ryley 29:45
I love that. I mean it's- I don't hate this review but I don't- I do agree the the
Kat 29:55
It with the issues.
Ryley 29:56
Kind of like the annoying- I don't like him, but I think he's kind of a funny dipshit and like,
Kat 30:01
I like the caricature of him.
Ryley 30:03
Yeah he's an army dude so like- the mother is sidelined. A little bit. It's one of those things where the parent is always like, also not the villain or the enemy, but it's also like they can't find out or Everything's ruined.
Kat 30:16
Yeah, they're an- the parents that obstacle. They're there for plot reasons.
Ryley 30:19
Yeah. And like, that's just kind of
Kat 30:21
And they're a kid.
Ryley 30:22
Yeah, exactly which I get, but it's like one of those things where like, I would be refreshing to see a parent be like, we're in this mess. It's how can I help you know, kind of thing? I think that would be interesting for this character.
Kat 30:33
There are movies that do that.
Ryley 30:33
Yeah, exactly. I think it'd be interesting if his mom did that. In this movie.
Kat 30:37
She's set up as such like a strong solid mom. Feel like she would be capable of helping him in this.
Ryley 30:37
that the thing- well she's, uh, yeah, she's she's a single hardworking mom. She's trying to make ends meet kind of thing. And
Kat 30:51
a single mom who works too hard who loves her kids and never stops. Yeah his moms Reba McIntyre.
Ryley 30:58
Yes. I do. I do agree a little bit with this person's grievances a little bit. I don't, I don't think
Kat 31:07
it doesn't make it not enjoyable, though. Which I think they also acknowledge
Ryley 31:11
Yeah.
Kat 31:11
it's just like, you don't have to say it.
Ryley 31:13
Yeah you don't have to say it out loud. Like no one's no one's really like hung up on these issues. So don't- K Thanks. Bye.
Kat 31:22
I feel like they know that. I feel like they know that. That's probably why they went K thanks bye.
Ryley 31:25
That's probably why they're saying it. So yeah.
Kat 31:26
I have another review. There's no stars on it. But it's from September of 1999. And it says "I have it on good authority that for a few months after this came out Guillermo del Toro's answering machine said, 'I'm sorry, I cannot come to the phone right now. I'm watching The Iron Giant, please leave a message and I'll get back to you when I finished watching The Iron Giant."
Ryley 31:46
I love that. I'm going to make that my phone. Just forever. That's so funny.
Kat 31:51
If you ever get Guillermo del Toro like you meet him in person ask him to just record that into voicemail.
Ryley 31:57
Oh my God, that's fantastic. I love no star reviews on letteroxd because they could they could literally be anything you have no clue. Those are my favorites.
Kat 32:07
I also peak comedy to me because I know peak comedy to you is when people mentioned unnecessary unrelated movies. Peak comedy for me is when people make up facts about famous people on- in their reviews. Like when they say I have a good authority. I have it on good authority, like the stuff with like Stephenie Meyer where someone was like I have it on good authority that Stephenie Meyer did this. Because of this. I just think it's so funny.
Ryley 32:30
Yeah, I love it.
Kat 32:31
Moving on to the next review, which is a two star from September of 2021. And they say, "I know that this is a cult classic, but it just didn't work for me. I can understand why people really liked this film, but for my tastes it was just too corny in the messaging, character stereotype/design, and especially the voice acting. And while you could argue that simplicity is normal for a movie aimed at children, the genre has too many entries, which handled those things more elegantly. So this argument falls flat." If this was your review, and you just happened to be listening to this, I'd love to know what movies you think handled these themes better.
Ryley 33:01
Yeah, because I don't know what they're talking about. I don't. And they're like, are they saying the movies like too simple for like the messages?
Kat 33:08
I guess. What it seems like I feel like this person watched this movie in 2021.
Ryley 33:12
Yeah.
Kat 33:13
I don't think it's that simple. Because I didn't realize the depth of the message until more recently watching this movie again.
Ryley 33:19
Yeah. And I don't think it's corny. I don't know. Maybe you could argue, but I don't. I don't think it is.
Kat 33:26
This just seems like a pretentious way to look at movies.
Ryley 33:29
Yeah.
Kat 33:30
And I'm not gonna lie. I'm not a big fan of looking at every movie that way where it's like, I'm better than this.
Ryley 33:35
Yeah.
Kat 33:36
I don't know. Learn to how to have fun.
Ryley 33:38
Yeah, that's the whole thing. And also like, just because it's a kids movie doesn't make it less, you know?
Kat 33:43
Yeah, let go. Take that stick out of your butt.
Ryley 33:45
yeah.
Kat 33:46
Anyway, the next review is from October of 2021. Also from letterboxed, also two stars, and they say, "this movie seems pretty neat until you watch literally any blockbuster anime from the same era and realize what better animators are able to pull off with half the budget. In a sane world The Iron Giant would be considered a fairly standard, middle-of-the-road melodramatic family film, but its production value, and slightly edgier writing puts it above the rest of the dribble American studios tend to push out. Good movie for kids, but the older audience should be able to identify its tropes as tired and overused." Disagree, disagree, disagree, but I do agree with the fact that there are animated movies from the same time that were pushing- they were pushing the same message and a more radical and arguably better way, but anime hadn't really hit its stride in the US at this point yet, so fuck off.
Ryley 34:30
Yeah.
Kat 34:31
We don't have to fight. We don't have to fight everything.
Ryley 34:36
Yeah, but it is like people are acting like oh, this is just a dumb kids movie.
Kat 34:40
And like it's been done before.
Ryley 34:42
when? tell me when?
Kat 34:44
Why don't you get- site some sources and examples if you're gonna make such a bold claim.
Ryley 34:47
Exactly. And don't say ET because No, it's not. It's not the same.
Kat 34:52
Back to the one right before this. Literally. We were just saying that every kid's movie has a similar message. Like Shut up.
Ryley 35:00
It's a similar message but that doesn't mean every movie is the same. And it's not done in its own unique and original way. And I think that's what Iron Giant shows like-
Kat 35:08
Yeah.
Ryley 35:08
yeah, similar message Oh be who you want to be. You are who you choose to be. That's still a different message. That's still- not different message but a different way to show kids.
Kat 35:17
I think so. I think they're too cool for this movie.
Ryley 35:20
No. Oh, they are. I think they're not cool enough for this movie.
Kat 35:24
You're right.
Ryley 35:24
I because you know, nerds like the greatest things good nerds, like the best things and they're just behind on the times.
Kat 35:33
Okay, they're starting to sound like- we're starting to sound like incels a little bit.
Ryley 35:37
Over the Iron Giant.
Kat 35:41
The person the the most recent one that I read, I do agree that there are anime movies that do it better and have better animation with half the budget and like, are technically better. But I don't think that that means that this movie would be considered middle of the road.
Ryley 35:54
No, and I don't think it is.
Kat 35:56
Like, look at the people who originally hated this movie. Look at the reasons why they hated this movie. I think it was doing something pretty edgy for 1999.
Ryley 36:07
Yes. Yeah. Cuz like this, that it was a big deal. Like these were big themes that they were they're being tackled in a kid's movie in 1999. Like,
Kat 36:15
I would argue that they didn't really do it in like, as much of a covert way as other kids movies had. They were being a little more blatant with what they were talking about. The gun violence debate in the US is still very heated to this day.
Ryley 36:29
Absolutely.
Kat 36:30
We're gonna move on. So this next one's a half star and it's from May of 2020. And it says, "I disliked pretty much everything about this movie. The animation was bland and uninteresting, and the story. Oh, don't get me started on the story. What, a giant annoying r-," Sorry, "what, a giant annoying robot of unknown origin appears and immediately starts causing massive damage to the surrounding infrastructure and you don't call the authorities? Hogarth, you idiot. The only thing that got me through this mess was knowing that there was a sad," sad in quotes, "ending since this probably meant the robot died, I was kind of looking forward to it. And sure enough, if you stop watching it after just an hour and 16 minutes it's pretty-"
Ryley 37:13
this person is such a cop.
Kat 37:16
pretty satisfying end to it all." yeah you fucking narc.
Ryley 37:18
Yeah.
Kat 37:19
Are you kidding.
Ryley 37:19
This person's a cop. oh my god.
Kat 37:21
Profile picture is Squidward they're literally being Squidward about this movie.
Ryley 37:25
Literally this is a children's movie that isn't actually real it's animated.
Kat 37:29
Hogarth, you idiot.
Ryley 37:30
It's animated and they're concerned about the infrastructure above
Kat 37:35
Why didn't the nine year old called the cops?
Ryley 37:37
They are they are upset about the massive damage to the surrounding infrastructure of a animated movie. That's the part where they they're like, that's too far. That's too far. What's going to happen? Are you kidding?
Kat 37:50
They could literally just draw it again.
Ryley 37:52
Oh my god, you must be a bummer of a person to watch anything with. Because that happens all the times in movies. Oh my God. Are you serious?
Kat 38:00
Literally. It's not real, Janet.
Ryley 38:02
It's not real, Janet. Yes, exactly. It's-
Kat 38:06
fuckin chill out. It's a movie.
Ryley 38:08
It's a movie. And like the whole point-
Kat 38:10
Nonetheless cartoon.
Ryley 38:11
It's a cartoon. You can't- you can't let your guard down. You can't just have an open mind for a kid's movie that you're sitting down to watch.
Kat 38:21
Like, I just don't understand how people willfully just have no suspension of disbelief for anything. Like what you must be the most boring person on this fucking planet if you can't sit and watch a movie because you're worried that the fake cartoon infrastructure got destroyed by a fake cartoon robot.
Ryley 38:37
Yeah, I can't I can't imagine what kind of person this is in real life. I can't.
Kat 38:42
What? What? What?
Ryley 38:44
It's so funny? Oh my God, that's your issue. Okay.
Kat 38:49
Okay. This is the longest one I found.
Ryley 38:51
Okay.
Kat 38:52
This is the last negative one and then we have two positives and number done. So we're gonna get through this one from August 24 of 1999. It is a one on a 10 star on IMDb and it is titled family entertainment takes a dive for the worst. "At the preview for Iron Giant, my kids barely could hold their excitement. They've seen the commercials and knew several of the characters are ready. In advance. I had warned them," that they weren't- "that there weren't any sidekicks or catchy songs as they've been accustomed to. By the end of the film, their eyes were downcast and it wasn't from sleep deprivation. This film isn't all it was hyped up to be. Much of what you see in the commercials is the whole film. Why go to the theaters? The commercials tell you everything! Moreover, the story isn't widely original either. If you've ever watched We're Back, Pete's Dragon, All Dogs Go To Heaven or ET (all children and family movies) then you've already watched this film. It's the typical plot about children who find an amazing discovery keep it a secret, abuse its powers,"
Ryley 39:49
what?
Kat 39:50
Okay, we'll go paragraph by paragraph with this one.
Ryley 39:52
Yeah.
Kat 39:52
Okay. "And learn to extend beyond their own feelings for my children, probably the most damaging to the plot, however, was their dislike of the giant itself. There wasn't enough to connect him with the audience which undermines the emotion of the rest of the film builds on. Without the connection between such a key character, the audience loses interest."
Ryley 40:11
What? What do you mean you can't connect to the giant? It's literally the bare bones of what a character is. You literally see him as a literal robot who doesn't speak, doesn't seem to have emotion. And literally you see this character grow into like this like this being with life in it, with soul and feelings and thoughts and opinions. Oh my god, how the fuck could you not get like attached to the robot itself?
Kat 40:36
You literally learn what he wants to be.
Ryley 40:39
Yes.
Kat 40:39
You see how connected he gets to fucking Superman because Superman is an alien from another planet that crashed into Earth. Okay. So your kids couldn't find a connection there. Your kids just sound like they suck.
Ryley 40:51
And he literally just wants to help people. He loves Hogarth, he just wants to be, you know, hang out with Hogarth and be friends. And oh, my God.
Kat 40:59
I don't understand using this argument that the story is not widely original. It's not an- it's not a valid argument to make anymore. It's just the way it is. Especially with kids movies. It's the same moral.
Ryley 41:10
It's what you turn it into. It's what- it's the original stuff that is in there.
Kat 41:15
Yeah. How you get there. And like none of the movies that were listed are about a giant robot alien crashing to Earth. During the Cold War.
Ryley 41:23
Yeah.
Kat 41:23
Don't bring all dogs go to heaven into this. It didn't do anything.
Ryley 41:25
yeah don't, don't bring that movie in here. We'll watch it next week and review it. I don't care.
Kat 41:30
You do the first one. I'll do the second one.
Ryley 41:34
Yeah, that's right. There's two. Yeah, you do the second one. Yeah.
Kat 41:37
I'll do the one with Charlie Sheen.
Ryley 41:39
We need- yes charlie sheen was in the second one. Oh, God, wait wait before we move on to the next one. They did say they you know, they find it they keep it a secret and abuse its powers.
Kat 41:52
Where does Hogarth abuse its powers?
Ryley 41:53
That's never a thing in that movie. He actually told him you can't do that. You have to be good. You can't hurt things. You have to be gentle. You have to be nice.
Kat 42:01
Your kids are boring. And I bet that you asked for your money back.
Ryley 42:04
They probably are not allowed to eat cake at birthday parties. So they just had to eat granola.
Kat 42:09
Yeah.
Ryley 42:09
They sit in the corner eating their granola like watch everyone else eat cake.
Kat 42:12
Their mom doesn't let them- their mom doesn't let them have soda. They had to drink fresca growing up.
Ryley 42:16
Yes. That's what your kids sound like.
Kat 42:19
Yeah, but anyway, we'll move on to the last two paragraphs of this person's review. "Furthermore, the movies animation barely matched with current releases. There weren't as many lush color tones and smooth running lines to make the film visually appealing. Don't get me wrong, Warner Bros has had great animation in the past (although its last ventures Quest for Camelot and the King and I work complete flops.) If they only stick with Bugs Bunny, they'd have the works played out in their hands. Space Jam was wildly successful, plus, the shading and color of old characters brought new life to their persona. In several aspects, Space Jam was far superior from animation to plot, aesthetics to witty lines when compared to the Iron Giant. When past Warner Brothers animation aimed towards the family, The Iron Giant aimed for commercial. Several times the topic of Superman, (a character which Warner Brothers owned) was brought up. Soon, we'll see superman figures lined up with the corny iron giant banks and toothbrushes."
Ryley 43:14
Literally-
Kat 43:14
That didn't happen. We didn't get any merchandising.
Ryley 43:17
So literally, you're just making up stuff. It did not aim for commercial. It did not because guess what, that's the reason why it didn't do well the box office. I'm glad you got to see one commercial and you brought your shitty little kids to go see it and didn't appreciate it.
Kat 43:30
They're acting like the movie did really really well.
Ryley 43:32
Yeah, and they're mad about it also, why are you comparing Space Jam an absolute commercial pool
Kat 43:40
100% commercial movie. The mention of Superman and The Iron Giant is so loose and tangential.
Ryley 43:48
It's not-
Kat 43:49
It's not plastered everywhere. Superman's not like on everything.
Ryley 43:52
No, it's literally just for that for the character iron giant to look up to and it's not he's not in the movie. He's not mentioned to be he's just an idol.
Kat 44:02
The Iron Giant is him.
Ryley 44:04
Yeah.
Kat 44:06
He just wants to be Superman.
Ryley 44:07
Yeah. And he's looking. Yeah, exactly.
Kat 44:10
But anyway, we'll move on to the last paragraph. "Lastly, there's the objectionable material. For the first time in my life, I saw the main character of a cartoon feature length movie use the restroom. The use of the bathroom is all too common in live action films. But they've begun to pass surreptitiously into cartoons. Why does such a scene need to take a place the film relays and anti government atmosphere the main characters are always on the run well, officials heartlessly Chase its victims. I admit several children's books are perfect for Hollywood. This one may have been one if taken from a different approach." So there's the core of it. They're really just upset that it's an anti government sentiment of a movie and they are taking shots at anything that can even hold water.
Ryley 44:53
Yep, absolutely. That's where it is.
Kat 44:55
Getting pissed off at there's a cartoon character using the toilet.
Ryley 44:58
Are they referring to the scene where like he to push the?
Kat 45:00
Hogarth is, yeah.
Ryley 45:01
Yeah, okay.
Kat 45:02
Yeah, who gives a shit?
Ryley 45:03
That's not even what's happening in the movie. It's just a ploy to shut the- mom shut the door real quick.
Kat 45:09
That one thing of them using the bathroom just offended this person's delicate sensibility that it was like a clutching my pearls comment
Ryley 45:16
Oh, it was in but like really, why mentioned that and then right after it's also anti government? Oh.
Kat 45:23
Slipping that in there.
Ryley 45:24
Just gonna leave that at the very end real quick. It's also anti government, really? Are you sure that's not your main issue with this movie?
Kat 45:31
Yeah, just go ahead and write a whole fucking paper and mention that in the last sentence. Sure.
Ryley 45:35
And also, several children's movies or children's books are perfect for Hollywood. This isn't isn't the book that it's kind of based on not even about what's actually happening in the movie. It's like,
Kat 45:45
Yeah, well, that's what they said they- this one might have been better if they took it from a different approach.
Ryley 45:45
So but no, this person is wrong. This person has boring kids.
Kat 45:54
Your kids suck. You suck.
Ryley 45:56
Yeah, you have dumb thoughts.
Kat 45:58
Learn how to build a better argument.
Ryley 45:59
Yep.
Kat 46:00
Thank you Next. This next one is from 2013 and is a five star review and it is from letterbox and it says "watched it with my six year old movie ends total silence he whispers that was awesome."
Ryley 46:12
Aw that's so cute.
Kat 46:13
Isn't that so cute?
Ryley 46:15
I love that. Aw.
Kat 46:16
Moving on to the last review I have which is a 10 out of 10 from IMDb written August 2006 and it is titled stunning and magical. "I had heard many great things about the iron giant in the last few years but was one of those films I never got around to seeing. I picked up a copy of the Special Edition DVD expecting an entertaining animated film. What I actually got was not just one of the best animated films I have seen but one of the best films ever. It takes you to another world but never strays from reality and when watching it you forget it's animated. The characters are so well written it puts most live action films to shame. If you pass this off as a kid's film, you will be missing out on one of the most immersive and emotional experiences you can get from a film. The voice cast are perfect, the animation stunning, and the fact this film flopped when and released is nothing short of criminal. I urge anyone even with only a passing interest in cinema to watch this film and prepare to be amazed. Brad Bird must be," one of those directors, "one of the best directors working in animation and after seeing the Incredibles The Iron Giant was no fluke."
Ryley 47:17
That's awesome.
Kat 47:17
And I agree.
Ryley 47:18
I agree.
Kat 47:19
I agree with all of it
Ryley 47:19
Yep, absolutely. All of it.
Kat 47:22
Thoughts? Rating? I know you already gave it a 10 out of 10. But any any new thoughts with this information we've been given.
Ryley 47:27
nothing changed 10 outta 10 movie. I love it.
Kat 47:30
I think I've added a few people to the list of people I would fistfight if I met them in public.
Ryley 47:35
Yes. Because all the negative ones were just the stupid as points.
Kat 47:40
literally
Ryley 47:40
just the stupidest.
Kat 47:41
It was the two two star ones that really I was like, What are you even talking? But yeah, I could say the same here. 10 out of 10 mind not changed. I literally have nothing else to add.
Ryley 47:52
Yeah.
Kat 47:52
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Ryley 48:12
and I'm Ryley.
Kat 48:13
Easy watching out there. Bye
Ryley 48:15
Bye.