Team P*nis Forever (Mockingjay Part 1 and 2 Combined Review)

Welcome to the final part of our Hunger Games series. Kat and Ryley review Mockingjay part 1 and 2!

Review Overview: 10/10 would not rewatch. They stretched out so much of the book to make this finale have two parts. The book itself just wasn't up to par with the first two. Why did Finnick have to die?
Kat and Ryley: 1/5

kat 0:11

Hello and welcome to Easy Bake Takes: the podcast where we read you the one star reviews of your favorite movies and more. I'm Kat

ryley 0:19

and I'm Ryley.

kat 0:21

We are now on Mockingjay Part One and Two.

ryley 0:25

I'll go ahead and read the two summaries of both of the movies. So for Mockingjay, part one, "Katniss Everdeen is in district 13. After she shatters the game's forever, under the leadership of President coin and the advice of her trusted friends, Katniss spreads her wings, as she fights to save Peeta and a nation moved by her courage."

kat 0:46

Yeah, they're just kind of working up to getting Peeta out of the Capitol.

ryley 0:50

Exactly like that's about it. Mockingjay Part Two, here's the summary for this one. "Realizing the stakes are no longer just for survival. Katniss Everdeen teams up with her closest friends including Peeta, Gail and Finnick for the ultimate mission. Together they leave district 13 to liberate the citizens of war torn Panem and assassinate President Snow, who is obsessed with destroying Katniss. What lies ahead are mortal traps, dangerous enemies and moral choices that will ultimately determine the future of millions."

kat 1:23

I never really liked the the ending of the series. I think that's what like made me hate the book like the last book and the last movie. I want to know where you're going with this. Like, I don't care that you end up with Peeta and you have a kid. What happened to the world?

ryley 1:37

Yeah, what happened to like the people at the Capitol, what happened to the people in the other districts? Both were directed by Francis Lawrence, and he came in during catching fire, I believe.

kat 1:48

Yeah, he did.

ryley 1:49

Peter Craig and Danny Strong wrote the screenplay. The cast is your usual Jennifer Lawrence, Josh Hutcherson, Liam Hemsworth. Woody Harrelson, Philip Seymour Hoffman. It was really sad though he did die. He missed, I believe two scenes where he had some dialogue in and they had to split up the dialogue with other cast members because they didn't want to do CGI.

kat 2:12

Yeah, it would have looked cheesy probably.

ryley 2:14

Oh, yeah. And then Julianne Moore

kat 2:17

He had just died too. Sorry.

ryley 2:18

No, you're fine. Yeah. He had just passed away. And then Julianne Moore of course comes in. She plays President Alma Coyne. And she came in because her daughters were two big fans. I do have trivia. The movie was originally planned to be released in China on November 21 2014. But they had to pull it a week before release because there were protests in Hong Kong. And there's like a lot of similar political themes. Because the protest was about demands for democratic election in Hong Kong.

kat 2:53

I kind of wish they would have. Let them see it.

ryley 2:56

Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah, exactly. The, the dog wandering, wandering around in district 12, after it was like, destroyed, is Donald Sutherland's dog named Biggles

kat 3:07

That's cute.

ryley 3:08

I know, right?

kat 3:09

They're just like some- anybody got a dog

ryley 3:10

which I think is like, really funny, because like, you know, he plays President Snow and it's his dog running around. I don't know why. It means nothing. But I was like, Oh,

kat 3:19

that's cute.

ryley 3:19

Yeah. And then Jennifer Lawrence did her own singing for the hanging tree.

kat 3:24

I figured

ryley 3:24

Yeah. And it like sounds like her. And it went to number one worldwide on the iTunes sales chart. But she hated filming it because she does not like to sing.

kat 3:35

She's no- she's nothing to write home about in singing. She's not bad. But she's not like, she's, she's not gonna build a career off of it.

ryley 3:42

No, no, like, like, it was sweet. Like, it was like, you know, anyone who can sing like a lullaby. It's like nice, it's sweet. It's comforting, but- and then I have part to trivia. The cast has said multiple times that the hardest scene to shoot was the sewer scene. It took three weeks to shoot and was physically challenging. It was very hot on set, since they shot on location in actual sewers, which I wouldn't have guessed. They're- in 2012 the very first one, the cat Buttercup is a black and white cat and then in the other films, he's orange, and like, did the other one go away what happened? But here's the thing when they just keep it consistent. If

kat 4:20

what they can't find another black and white cat.

ryley 4:22

Yeah, well, what's funny is like, in the books, it is orange.

kat 4:26

Yeah, well, maybe they were like, i think we could switch it now.

ryley 4:29

Yeah, exactly. This one is considered by director Francis Lawrence as the most violent Hunger Games films out of the four. Which I get because it's war, and there's more deaths. Technically.

kat 4:44

It's not kids killing kids. I feel like that just takes takes it to a different level as a whole. Like it will never be to the level of like, the first one where it's children murdering each other.

ryley 4:57

Yeah

kat 4:57

Like, even catching fire. like those are, they're mostly adults, except for like Katniss and Peeta and I think maybe Finnick I don't know how old Finnick was supposed to be, but like, they're they're they're not-. There's like two kids in that one that are killing and they don't die.

ryley 5:13

Yeah.

kat 5:13

So this, ya know, the first ones for sure. The most violent one.

ryley 5:19

Yeah

kat 5:19

Just in the aspect of kids getting murdered.

ryley 5:21

Yeah. No, I agree. I could understand that just because like of the war stuff, but like, yeah, watching there. It's different. It's just different. This movie, the second part two had the lowest opening of the franchise at the box office, it only earn $102.7 million.

kat 5:41

How much did it cost to make

ryley 5:42

the budget was 116 million.

kat 5:45

So they didn't even break even?

ryley 5:46

I don't think they did, no

kat 5:48

no, they like they didn't. They didn't break even at all. Yeah, short, like $10 million dollars for breakeven.

ryley 5:55

It did not do great. And I blame Mockingjay Part One for them.

kat 5:59

I don't even think I saw the second part in theaters. So like, I. Did you want to go ahead and get into our thoughts and opinions or do you have any more background?

ryley 6:07

Nope, that was all I had.

kat 6:08

Okay, I'll, I'll go first. Definitely better than the Breaking Dawn's. Not by much. It didn't feel like a Hunger Games movie. But I know that's because like it's it's the conclusion and the other two were building up to this. It's it's my least favorite. I remember it being my least favorite book. I don't even think I finished reading the book. It wasn't even because I didn't want the series to end it was just like it wasn't good. Like it was it was phoned in. Specifically with these movies, I did enjoy the comedic relief of the scene of Katniss having to do her little, for lack of a better word, like rebellion promo video in front of the green screen thing, because it was just funny to hear Philip Seymour Hoffman get angry with her and like Effie to be like, Oh, she's just she's just warming up. She's just warming up. She'll get it. She'll get it. It's fine. And then the other thing, there's no way that she hit that jet that was gonna fly into the hospital with her arrow. Like there's no there's no way I don't. I don't think that she is that skilled. I don't think anyone's that skilled.

ryley 7:11

No

kat 7:11

I don't care for her arrows explode. No. She wasn't even ready. She just went big and hit it stupid. There was a dude with a crossbow next to you. Like he didn't even try. You only only Katniss tried to hit it.

ryley 7:26

Yeah.

kat 7:27

Gail didn't even try to help. Like, there were two of them. What if she missed? You have too much faith in her?

ryley 7:32

Yeah. Well, that's the thing like with the movies, like she is like the only person in the world who knows how to use a bow and arrow.

kat 7:40

yeah, no one else knows how to use bow and arrow?

ryley 7:41

No, not really. Because anytime whoever attempts to use it does a horrible job.

kat 7:49

Well, maybe that's why she always has arrows

ryley 7:51

Exac- well, that's the whole thing too is like she never runs out arrows. You know, she always has them. It's just

kat 7:58

she's got hero ammo. Like, you know, like a hero's gun never runs out. She's got hero ammo.

ryley 8:04

It's like, well, those things too. Like it's like, well, they don't want to deal with her running out arrows because there's other things to address. Yeah, no, I get that.

kat 8:13

She got she's got plot armor and hero ammo. She's got like, literal plot armor with the like, video of her getting shot that like went around. And like she was like, fine. Like "I have a bruised lung." You got shot. They made you a fancy little bulletproof outfit, like she's wearing like, it looks like a regular out- How was that bulletproof?

ryley 8:35

That's the thing. Like all the costumes like that she wears are supposed to help her they just look so thin.

kat 8:41

I feel like the costuming maybe it was because there wasn't as much to do with the costuming in this one that they just didn't try as hard because the costuming and catching fire and Hunger Games is great. Like it's a lot of effort is put into the costuming and the way everything looks feel like that was another thing. Like the there wasn't as much of a creative effort, but like I guess I don't know, I guess it's not really their fault. It just like didn't have, and I'm gonna say exactly what I said was the fucking Breaking Dawns, didn't have the magic. The magic wasn't there. The magic of the series wasn't there as much with it. And I don't want to watch a political war movie for children. And then the other thing I had I love Beetee, he's is my favorite character. He's doing all of the work the whole time. And everyone's just chillin. And I wrote down also the part where Peeta is like talking to the camera, and he's like, they're coming to district 13 Everyone will be dead by the morning and then Haymitch says that's a warning. He's warning us. And like someone else chimes in in the background too. And it's like, yeah, he's warning us. It's like guys, it's not a code that you have to like, decipher he literally just told you what's going to happen. Like they're coming tonight dudes. They're coming for you.

ryley 9:59

There- You couldn't have been more clear like you.

kat 10:02

They could have said nothing after that they could have just started the evacuation process.

ryley 10:05

There's no conversation. It's like, oh okay

kat 10:07

no one needed to comment

ryley 10:08

No one needed to comment

kat 10:11

like, Haymitch, you didn't need to chime in for that. Like,

ryley 10:14

that was a line Haymitch did not need.

kat 10:17

You didn'tneed to include that. Like I don't. And I feel like you were putting- they were going through like page by page and just being like, Yeah, put that in there. Put it let's just put all the book in there. That never works out how you want it to as much as people beg and beg for every detail they want to be in a movie from a book. It never pans out in the right way. Like that was an unnecessary comment. These could have been one movie, and it would have been fine. Like you don't, you obviously, your money grabbing did not work. You didn't even break even on like at the box office. Maybe just make it one movie.

ryley 10:51

I really wish like that these two movies were combined, it probably would have just been a better film. Like, we probably would have just been more satisfied. Had it, Had it been just one movie with these merge together because there's there is no reason why there's a part one or part two.

kat 11:11

I think that's another reason I don't ever want to do a fucking series again, unless there are finale movies did really really well. Like it it's just heartbreaking to get to them and be like, Oh, that's why I didn't watch that. Yeah, that's that's all I had written down. What did you think of it other than what I've said?

ryley 11:33

Other than that, like I these movies are really dark too, like not that the other ones aren't dark, but like these are just like war movie Dark.

kat 11:42

This could be not a dystopian movie. Like it could just be a war movie. Like the imagery looks like, like war. And I don't know if that's because we've grown up with war constantly happening. Or, or what? But like it just, it's not a Hunger Games movie. It's just a war movie. It I don't care about it as much.

ryley 12:03

Oh, yeah. I really think there could have been one great movie that would tie them all together. And it didn't have to be the best one. But it could have been way better than what we were given.

kat 12:16

Yeah, I think that added to how disappointing it was. Where it was like when people watch this, they had to wait a year to watch this piece of garbage part Two for the piece of garbage part one. And not that it's not that bad, but like I am being a little dramatic with it but it's like it's underwhelming like you disappointed your your fan base with these

ryley 12:40

two things that are about just crapping on this movie though. With the second part

kat 12:47

I said nice things

ryley 12:47

I yeah, I here's my here's my chance to say nice things. I cried when Finnick died, because I forgot he died. And then that sewer scene with all those like mewn little they look like the descent monsters and yeah, that actually did scare me. Like I was actually pretty scared to do that. I was kind of like this coming

kat 13:06

They're freaky.

ryley 13:07

Yeah, they're horrifying. That's about it. For me. Actually.

kat 13:12

I am on the same page. Like I didn't have a whole lot of notes on this one. But I would love to hear how it disappointed the critics.

ryley 13:19

So I have a some reviews for the Mockingjay Part One, Richard Prope's from the independent critic, he wrote one he gave this movie a b minus or a 2.5 I guess out of five or four. He claims the last book of the series had barely enough substance to make a film in the first place, let alone two. It's obviously a money grabbing film but he says it's still a moderately satisfying movie. He says this movie shows unconvincing relationships within the movie, especially with Katniss and Peeta. He calls it bordering on absurdity. The Hungary's Mockingjay Part One isn't an awful film, though it lacks the cohesive action, and compelling spirit so evident in the first two films. The film benefits greatly from the presence of Jennifer Lawrence, a talented actress who manages to find emotional depth and sincerity. Even when the dialogue is betraying her.

kat 14:09

Basically the quintessential, like, she did the best with what she had.

ryley 14:14

He ends the review by saying, "while it's still worth a view, do yourself a favor and film out, familiarize with the material if you're not already familiar. Otherwise, you'll spend more time trying to figure everything out than actually watching the film." You know, like at this point, you should be you should have seen the other movies or at least like know the books.

kat 14:33

Yeah. If anyone hasn't seen any of them. You should- please don't start with Mockingjay Part One.

ryley 14:39

It sounds that sounds so random to do. Like you like no one's gonna have a good time doing that.

kat 14:45

Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that ever start with the first movie.

ryley 14:47

Yeah, exactly. So in the next review, this one's titled The Hunger Games Mockingjay Part One kicks off the finale. This was ran in 2014 by Therese Lacson. They gave this a four out of five stars. They say the film stands alone as its own and is not just the next film provides great performances, themes and world building they quote "Mockingjay delivers more great storytelling, while at the same time delving deeper into the story that can easily become superficially complex." They complement J Law's performance and brings depth to the character that they once thought was cold and distant.

kat 15:21

I felt the opposite. Yeah, she got she got more involved in the cause. And like, wasn't just like, I don't want my family to die. Like It was more, like she became more like, oh, yeah, a whole country of people could die. Maybe I should step it up a little.

ryley 15:37

And I think in these movies like this is where Katniss' character kind of just sinks. They say that because this movie's tone changes and doesn't have games, there's a huge shift in setting because of the plot, people will have to adjust to the lack of action. They say that the whole cast provides amazing performances. They conclude by saying, "personally, I think this may have been the best film in the series. I went in with very low expectations, having heard mild to bad things about the final book of the series. No, I have not read the series." But yeah, "but it captured me entirely, and was able to leave a stronger mark than its predecessors." It makes a lot of sense that they didn't read the book, and they liked this one.

kat 16:19

You must have just really not liked the games.

ryley 16:22

How's it get better than catching fire? Like

kat 16:25

I like- even if you didn't read the books, catching fire is the best movie out of all of them. I guess you'd like what you like,

ryley 16:31

but like what you like and I'm not gonna say they're wrong.

kat 16:34

So they aren't- you can say they're wrong.

ryley 16:36

I'm very kind of almost indifferent about these two movies.

kat 16:39

I want to defend the first two, just for the fact that like, no fucking Mockingjay is not better than those two. But like, I'm not gonna defend this movie.

ryley 16:49

Oh, no. So like my my only thing that I would say they're wrong about is like, that is the best film the series. I don't understand how you get there. I don't understand how you get there. Everything else like they're like them liking what they like about the movies. Like that's fine, but

kat 17:04

Look at the numbers.

ryley 17:05

No kidding. So moving on to the Mockingjay Part Two reviews. So this one is by Tasha Robinson. Tasha writes how Part Two isn't necessarily good movie but it serves the last three movie as a finale like well. Taken on its own, it's a dour faltering film with an underserved cast full of unsatisfying downtime, and distractingly poor lighting

kat 17:31

they accomplish the goal that they needed to that was set up in the beginning Do I like the execution of getting to that point? No. The choices made sense like the plot choices I understand they gotta go through all those things to get there. Yes. Time wise I don't know the the fact that they're split into two pieces me off more than anything else.

ryley 17:50

No, I totally agree. It's it's really frustrating. She writes that J Law usually gives a great betrayal, kindness and our inner conflict. But in this one, it kind of escapes from her.

kat 17:59

Yeah, I don't I wouldn't say that. Like she completely lost the touch that she had with Katniss as a character. Like I don't think she lost touch. I think the script lost touch.

ryley 18:10

Oh, yeah, definitely. She writes how the love triangle is like a symptom of a Twilight and she was kind of like annoyed by that. But she does say but even so Part Two surprisingly aggressive about making Gail needy. The film treats his connection with Katniss as downright distasteful. Focusing on his glowering possessiveness he's Edward Cullen with a pulse and about

kat 18:32

that, I think that's another reason why I never really liked Gail was just how he acts towards Katniss. You he's just, he seems like he's entitled to Katniss.

ryley 18:41

Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely.

kat 18:43

He's like the fucking INCEL of this movie.

ryley 18:45

He is though

kat 18:46

He's He's as much as his character acts like Jake. Edward. He is Jacob.

ryley 18:51

He is such a huge Jacob.

kat 18:53

I never thought in my life. I would say I would hear you say he said to Jacob. I'm glad we got there. I'm glad I got you there.

ryley 18:58

Yeah. Okay, he is though! So she finishes by saying that the production company is looking for ways to make more movies from the franchise. Like I'm very like you mentioning that.

kat 19:07

Yeah, they she wrote another book

ryley 19:08

She ends with a for you with "Hunger Games movies don't entirely hold up as individual experiences. But together, they form a single arc, as wobbly as Mockingjay Part two is it's powerful because its characters and conflicts have become so familiar in the culture. And because it completes a long and painful journey."

kat 19:25

Again, it definitely felt like an obligation, like it felt like oh, well, I have to finish we have to finish the series that they're gonna be mad at us either way, we might as well just finish it. I thought of something. That is a little off topic, but it's on topic because it's about Jennifer Lawrence. There was a time when she was coming back from training for I don't know if it was catching fire or Hunger Games, but she had her compact bow and arrow in her trunk of her car and she thought she heard people in her house. And so she like, gets the bow and arrow ready and goes inside. Like to defend herself with this fucking bow and arrow, and she gets inside and it's just people working on her neighbor's house or something.

ryley 19:59

My gosh, that's gonna be shocking to see. Like,

kat 20:04

I don't think they saw her

ryley 20:06

okay.

kat 20:07

Like they were. She heard voices upstairs like she was pulling into her garage. She thought they were in her house, but they were outside like working next door. or something

ryley 20:16

oh okay, that makes sense. I love how she has it in the trunk of her car like

kat 20:19

but yeah, you can get back to the next review if you'd like.

ryley 20:22

But that finishes that one. And then I have a combined review that someone wrote, This was written by Danielle Salzman, she immediately addresses that the movies should not have been made into two separate films. It's an obvious cash grab. She mentions how divergent did this and didn't even make a second one. They state how the movies are violent, but that's because they're a little war going. There's a little war going on. So anyone saying they're less violent, because there's no gains is wrong.

kat 20:48

It shouldn't be that it's less violent. I think it's it should be that it's not. It 's less intense violence,

ryley 20:56

right. They mentioned the flaw in the first movie is there's way less action because it's more about kindness being used as propaganda. They don't blame the director or writers for this, but the production company for wanting to split the last book.

kat 21:10

the material they had to work with, which was the terrible last book, and the production companies pushing for a way to make more money.

ryley 21:19

they conclude by saying "the Hunger Games Mockingjay Part One and Two make for an epic conclusion to the franchise but the second film is stronger than the first. Overall it's a dark and violent thriller with no shortage of drama. But one can only wonder what a non split film would look like."

kat 21:35

I don't know what like it's was especially coming out of a big production company like Lionsgate, like they probably didn't have very much creative freedom. And I- that's just me speculating, I don't want to say either way if they were able to do what they wanted. But like, you know, it's possible that Lionsgate was like, no, do it by the book. And we're splitting it in half.

ryley 21:56

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why I absolutely believe happened. Yeah, absolutely.

kat 22:01

You ready to dive into these audience reviews?

ryley 22:03

Let's do it. I'll read the first one Mockingjay Part One, reviews for that one first. This one is a 10 out of 10 review from IMDb and its titled "This is where things get real." "I love the first two hunger game movies but this part one of the two part climax to the triology really took things to a new level. Everything from story to score to acting was just perfect. I loved how the world slowly got more revealed. And the end game realized. Following Katniss through her adventures has been one of the most enjoyable for me as a movie goer"

kat 22:35

that's good for you.

ryley 22:36

Yeah, good for you.

kat 22:38

I'm glad somebody enjoyed it.

ryley 22:39

Exactly. So I have my first one out of 10 one. They titled it "the crying games." This was written in 2015, so not long after it came out. "Dull, lifeless and full crying and sobbing This is an unbearable and undeniable cash register ringing abomination. nothing much happens. A lot of time is spent talking about things rather than showing things. You know, like a movie might like like to do occasionally. Big name stars were wasted with cardboard characters in goofy get ups. Don't you love what Woody Harrelson is hair hat?"

His hair his hair, like just like my hair does this one I wear beanies. I just thought it was funny that no one was like with his hair like no one thought to like push the part of his hair that was just like stick straight on the side.

Hey, let's stylen it so it looks like hairs here.

kat 23:27

Put the hair behind his fucking ear.

ryley 23:29

Yeah. I picked that review just because of that comment.

kat 23:34

I could not take my eyes off of his hat hair. This entire time this fucking beanie, Owen Wilson wig. Like they're pulling a twilight with these wigs.

ryley 23:45

Oh god. Jennifer Lawrence's was believable.

kat 23:50

I think that was just her hair. Was it not?

ryley 23:52

she wore I believe it was in the second one she wore a wig.

kat 23:56

Her hair was like more red in the second one, I'm pretty sure

ryley 23:59

yeah

kat 23:59

that had to have been the wig then

ryley 24:01

This is a one out of 10 One and the title is "lacks anything a good film contains an empty cinematic vessel." This was written in 2014, so right around when it came out. "This absolute Turkey was right on time for Thanksgiving. Do not go see this unless you are under 15 or an absolute diehard fan of the franchise. She plays the weakest superhero since Tobey Maguire in spiderman."

kat 24:24

Hey, hey,

ryley 24:25

I that's where I was like oh

kat 24:26

Don't you bring Tobey into this

ryley 24:27

oh, I need to put this one here because I know we're gonna opinions.

kat 24:30

Don't bring Tobey into this.

ryley 24:33

Don't say- don't talk bad about Tobey. Don't do it.

You leave the Sam Raimi Spider Man movies alone.

Oh, yeah, those are good movies. Leave that man alone. Yeah.

Leave him alone. You talk about you could talk about Andrew Garfield all you want you leave. Totally.

That's fair. That's so fair.

kat 24:50

Right? Yeah, I do have opinions. And it's just fucking leave Tobey Maguire alone.

ryley 24:55

Don't do it. Don't talk bad about him.

kat 24:56

Don't bring him into this. Don't- your opinions already invalid to me? I don't care. How I- what I said about this movie earlier? I disagree with you now.

ryley 25:04

Exactly. "This film is painful to sit through. Very, very little story. Although in general, I like Jennifer Lawrence, in this film, she really missed the mark. She displays little in the way of power, digni-, dignity, grace or inspiration is very poorly written. The characters are becoming very tired in the entire enterprise like inspiration. I cannot more hardly encourage you to avoid- avoid seeing this turkey. It was very hard to sit through" I love that he keeps calling it a Turkey.

kat 25:35

That is That was my favorite part.

ryley 25:37

It's a really good way to call a bad movie.

kat 25:39

That's my Okay, that's my that's my favorite thing. Like random insults. You fucking turkey.

ryley 25:48

It's worse than dumbass. It's worse than saying stupid. You're just-

kat 25:52

fuckin Turkey

ryley 25:53

You're a stupid bird.

kat 25:55

We're gonna get attacked by turkeys online. But like I he's the only spider man that can make his own webs from his body.

ryley 26:05

Yeah, that's the weird part. I didn't okay. I didn't even know Tom Holland couldn't do that. And it bothered me, because I didn't realize that until they were talking to each other in the movie. They're like, wait, you can do that? them like they can't?

It's like it never. It's fucking hero armor. They don't really bring it up until it. I think it's more of a comic book thing.

Yeah. I did like that review. That was a very good review, except for the Tobey Maguire part.

kat 26:30

That was uncalled for. It's one of the- Like, it's that's something that I think we get annoyed at the most is like when someone brings in a movie or like an actor that has nothing to do with the movie you're talking about. Like, what was it? I think it was, was it Juno or twi- it was maybe Juno, where they brought up made in Manhattan. And it was like, That movie has nothing to do with this movie. Or it was twilight or something.

ryley 26:55

It was something like crazy. Like, it's like, how do you make that connection to the other connection?

kat 27:00

Yeah

ryley 27:00

it makes no sense whatsoever.

kat 27:02

How did you get there?

ryley 27:03

How

kat 27:03

that's, that's a superhero movie. This is a sci fi movie. She doesn't have special powers. She just has a bow and arrow. And I will say you- you are right when you mentioned earlier like she just somehow has this magical ability to be really, really good now and never has any faults. So I think that kind of takes away their point too. She's not weak. She's just- her character is weak. Where like she is no longer capable of failing in the ways that she could before.

ryley 27:32

Oh, no, I agree, yeah. Well, those are a few that IMDb ones now I have some letterbox ones. Three stars, and I'm just just gonna go through them. I- There were a bunch. I refuse to believe that everyone in district five learnt the lines to the hanging tree just so that they could sing it in unison as they marched to their death.

kat 27:51

No, it's like a it's like a well known like, lullaby in the in Panem. Like that's like, like the "rock little baby" Like that one. It's like that. Like they all know it. Like it's- I don't think it's like they learned it. I think it's just I don't know if it's specific to district 12 actually, but like Plutarch knew it.

ryley 28:12

Yeah. Well, someone else said to is like, Oh, the CGI. Seymour Hoffman can't hurt me like they were making a joke about I'm like, but where were you talking about?

kat 28:23

There literally wasn't one.

ryley 28:24

There wasn't one. I don't. I don't know what you're talking about.

kat 28:27

I don't remember at any point him looking like off putting or scary?

ryley 28:31

No. And that's why I didn't know what they were talking about. I'm like, There's I don't know what you're talking about.

kat 28:35

These are some hollow arguments from letterbox today.

ryley 28:37

Yeah, there's some hollow ones. And also 90% of them are just people hating on Gail. So be prepared for that.

kat 28:43

I'm ready. I'm ready.

ryley 28:44

So here's one. This one's two and a half. Two and a half, which they would just don't get on the Hunger Games. He's really annoying.

Yeah, well, he would have, like we talked about with the first one. He would have just dodged it somehow.

Yeah, no kidding. This one's three and a half "too much Gail and not enough Finnick"

kat 29:02

they made a they made a mistake by putting someone hot.

ryley 29:04

I know that well and like nicer than him.

kat 29:08

Because like Liam Hemsworth was supposed to be like the hot one. And then they introduced Sam Claflin in there and we were all like, fuck liam look at this guys. And he's got a nice personality? look at him.

ryley 29:21

Exactly. "If I see Gail sympathizers, it's on site." This was 3 stars.

kat 29:27

Yeah, it's like it's like the fucking Jacob dudes like it's the Jacob fans.

ryley 29:30

Yeah

kat 29:31

Team Jacob. People are on the same level as Team Gale. People in my mind, like fuck you. There's no basis for Gail to be her love interest.

ryley 29:38

Yeah.

kat 29:38

Like what they were- they've been friends since childhood. I don't care.

ryley 29:41

I don't care. And then this one is. "And y'all call this movie bad. Why? Because the second half isn't set in the murder arena. Instead we finally get some character development for Katniss and a pretty decent analysis or what a evolution needs to succeed. Y'all are wack."

kat 30:00

They're not wrong

ryley 30:01

Not wrong.

kat 30:02

Like I said before, the execution was my issue. It wasn't the- it wasn't the plot wasn't, it wasn't anything like with the acting, it was the execution of it. Like what they were forced to write, and how they chose to portray it.

ryley 30:19

Exactly. This ones good. It's one star. "I hate Harry Potter for making double part finales. A thing and young adult film."

kat 30:28

Yeah, I yep

ryley 30:29

I blame them. I blame JK Rowling.

kat 30:33

Yeah, she's caused so much turmoil.

ryley 30:36

Yeah. This one is four and a half stars. "Two hours of nothing and I" eat up every time "I eat it up every time."

kat 30:45

I mean, this probably I'm there are some really dull shitty movies that I would consider my comfort movie so I get it. I get it if this like this movie is your comfort movie. It's a lot of nothingness. And you just like you like to mindlessly watching. I get it.

ryley 30:59

I get that

kat 30:59

I get it from that standpoint. I don't get it from the standpoint of like, saying it's a good movie.

ryley 31:04

Yeah, "I think this is actually a good movie-" No, it's- if you know what it is good for you.

kat 31:10

Yeah, I can respect that.

ryley 31:11

This one's three and a half. Some "something that not many people know about me is I had a" card boat. "cardboard cutout Peeta in my room growing up."

kat 31:21

I had a I had a Tiger Beat poster Josh Hutcherson that I stole from my sister

ryley 31:25

Posters I can get but a cart cardboard cutout someone of a man in my room that will scare the crap out of me every time I leave. I don't even care who it is. That's that's going to scare me. Are those expensive? Are those cheap? I don't.

kat 31:40

I have no idea. I've never looked into buying one.

ryley 31:43

I feel like they can go either way. I feel like you could get one for free somewhere

kat 31:47

Yeah you just steal it.

ryley 31:47

But also there's some that are probably worth $500 on the Internet somewhere.

kat 31:51

Yeah, I don't I've never in my life looked into buying a cardboard cutout. I just assumed that people my age that had them probably took them from like a Barnes and Noble.

ryley 32:00

Yeah. Or yeah, that's the thing either got free somewhere you stole it. And that was my last one for the part one and then part two. So this one is 10 out of 10. On IMdB. It was around 2015. So not long after came out. And the title is, "in my opinion this is the best movie of the series." "I wasn't sure how the movie would play out compared to the book. But it caught me by surprise. Most books made two movies are so horrible. But Hunger Games Part Two was not a disappointment to me. Everything they did was exactly what I wanted them to do. They added on a little extra ending part and didn't have to but I was already completely satisfied by the time that it didn't even matter. And thought it was kind of cute that they even did that and play with my emotions perfectly. And I would recommend it to anyone who is a fan of the series. This final movie really makes me want to go out and get the whole collection. I have a marathon of all the films at home on the weekend."

kat 33:01

I yeah, I you know if you'd like it, that's fine.

ryley 33:06

Yeah. This is not one of those movies where I'm gonna care whether you like or not, like good for you.

kat 33:11

It's just one of those where I'm going to question your taste a little if you think it's the best movie in The Hunger Games series.

ryley 33:19

I think there's something wrong. So this one is a one out of 10 this was written in 2016 "I wish I could give this a zero." "This is by far and by far. I mean the worst movie I've ever seen in my life. Horrible acting full cliche, cliche lines, completely out context storyline you name it" they just say storyline.

kat 33:46

Yeah, I mean, you know that Yeah, yep.

ryley 33:53

I mean you could hate the storyline but don't just say storyline you got to you got to say why the storylines bad

kat 33:59

Like I've said like three times at this point. plot wise I understand how they got from point A to point B, just execution that's all. Maybe they just didn't like the execution of it and blamed it on the storyline itself, which I think you know, maybe they just didn't like the storyline. I would like to know why but I guess they they like- keep your secrets then.

ryley 34:21

"I try to understand fans. Try to understand people that love the books, but uh, Lord, how can someone rate this with more than average at best is beyond me. Accurate horrible CGI. Lol What did" What did just happen? "What did just happen moments. Just a total mess. I tortured myself to watch it to the end, just to be able to see how much nonsense one can fit into a movie. And oh boy, was I not disappointed. I thought Final Destination movies had the most transparent scripts ever, wrong again."

kat 34:55

Did they say something about like not liking the other books either?

ryley 34:57

Yeah, they they tried to understand the fan. I try to understand people that love the books, but oh Lord, how can someone read this more than average? So yeah, apparently they don't like the books either.

kat 35:07

Okay

ryley 35:08

Which, I think that's bad taste. This one's also one out of 10 "It's ridiculous" title made in 2017 and "Jennifer Lawrence was a good actor. Really? Not much to say about this final (thank God installment) The movie is about a bunch of running, hiding, Lawrence's lack of acting skills and a bomb of an ending. And I bought and I bought this movie. What an idiot I was. I'll be lucky to sell it at my next garage sale for 50 cents. My husband, who was a major major Hunger Games, fan hated it also. I had to stop him from frisbee and out the yard. No spoilers here."

kat 35:48

Fair reaction.

ryley 35:49

Fair reaction. Yeah.

kat 35:50

It would've been like a $20 DVD.

ryley 35:53

Yeah.

For a movie you ended up hating?

kat 35:55

Yeah

Maybe you should have rented it. That's like just the idea of buying a- like every time I've gone to go buy look at the DVDs. The DVD bucket at Walmart, the $5 bucket. Like I only look at the $5 bucket. I'm not buying anything from the regular section

ryley 36:11

You can't waste any money on a $5 DVD.

kat 36:14

Half of the DVDs I own are from Half Price Books. Or like Goodwill. I don't. I don't buy full price DVDs.

ryley 36:22

No, no. Let's move on to the letterbox ones because they're pretty great. This one comes in strong. This one says "ACAB includes Gale." So there we go. And they left no stars. No stars. There no, this movie.

kat 36:41

Gale wasn't worth their stars.

ryley 36:43

Nope. This one's three stars. "I don't know more depressing movie." And I want to argue that because I can think of a lot of more depressing movies

kat 36:52

You ever seen Room?

ryley 36:54

I can name five and top of my head. They're more depressing than this movie. Movies actually, based on real events in life.

You ever seen Saving Private?

No kidding.

kat 37:02

Tying it back in. Hold the phone Schindler's List? Really? This movie is more depressing than Schindler's List?

ryley 37:09

right?

kat 37:10

I could go on for a while

ryley 37:11

There's so many. I thought of like 10 The second I read that I was like, Nope, I can think of 10 more movies that are more depressing than this

kat 37:19

Schindler's List, dude? Come on.

ryley 37:22

Next one there's a two star one. This is us right here. This is ours. "Thank fuck these are over."

kat 37:30

Yes, please pick something that is so far removed from

ryley 37:35

I'm gonna pick this shores movie.

kat 37:37

I'm so tired.

ryley 37:40

Four stars. "It says finally a happy ending for Katniss and Peeta. The ending was really great, but in my mind, my mind Gail is dead."

kat 37:49

Yeah

ryley 37:50

There were so many hate Gail ones like people are like "in my mind Finnick didn't die and it was Gail instead"

kat 38:01

why did he have to die so you could live? It's warranted it is warranted. I just like I said in the fucking beginning. There is no setup emotionally for us to give a shit about Gail.

ryley 38:13

No, of course not. I just I just went through four different letterbox reviews saying how much they wish Gail ended up dead, so funny. But this one "Finnick Odair deserves so much better. Suzanne Collins, girl when I catch you."

kat 38:30

Yeah, people really latched on to Finnick

ryley 38:34

Oh, yeah. This one right here. "When Finnick says ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the 76 Hunger Games." It's all just it's like 100 Emojis of the pregnant lady emoji.

kat 38:47

Yeah.

ryley 38:51

Last one, two and a half stars. "Penis forever." little heart emoji or like, not even emoji. emmycon. Was it called?

kat 39:02

emoticon?

ryley 39:02

emoticon.

kat 39:06

Emmycon. It's the convention for everyone who has won an Emmy.

ryley 39:08

Yep.

kat 39:11

I'm gonna give them a solid one out of five. Both part one and two. I'm gonna say it's a one out of 5.

ryley 39:17

Yeah, I'm never gonna rewatch them. There's no reason for me to ever watch them. I'll re-watch The Hunger Games and catching fire.

kat 39:24

Yeah, in my mind that ends at catching fire.

ryley 39:27

Yeah, and then I make up my own story about what happened.

kat 39:31

Exactly. I don't really have much else to say that. I haven't said like a bunch of times during this.

ryley 39:36

Yeah.

kat 39:37

I'm just excited to not be doing this.

ryley 39:40

Yeah, we're not going to do franchise for a long time.

kat 39:42

No, no more series for a while

ryley 39:45

for a very long while.

kat 39:46

Plus there aren't a lot of other ones I can really think of that would be worth our time right now. Other than like, maybe around Halloween paranormal activity.

ryley 39:57

Oh, yeah.

kat 39:57

Like, I'd be down for that

ryley 39:59

those would be good

kat 40:00

there's like six of those though we don't have to do all of them

ryley 40:02

no, we can just do three

kat 40:04

yeah we can do three of those

ryley 40:05

Yeah

kat 40:06

and yeah did you- What do you- Do you have anything else to add that you haven't already said?

ryley 40:11

No. I'm really sad Finnick died. I think that's a crime that they killed him off.

kat 40:17

Yeah

ryley 40:18

I also give these a one there- there- I'm never watching them again.

kat 40:22

If you want to feel completed, like how with- it was with the Twilight series, you can go ahead and watch all of them just you know, we gave you fair warning. If you like them, you like them. If you don't you don't. We're gonna question your taste a little bit if you like them, but you know, hey, we're just two people with microphones and our opinions aren't really fact. So, watch this one. Let us know what you think. You can reach out to us on Instagram or Tiktok @easybaketakes. Our DMS are open on Instagram and we post announcements on there and we are going to be posting more clips from the show on Tiktok so find us on there. Thank you so much for for listening along with us. This has been Easy Bake Takes I'm Kat

ryley 41:03

and I'm Ryley.

kat 41:04

Easy watching out there.

ryley 41:06

Bye

kat 41:07

bye